(WATCH) Jim Jordan Fiercely Questions Why Government Refuses To Run Study On COVID Natural Immunity (VIDEO)
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) ripped into Dr. Marty Makary during the House Hearing On Global COVID-19 Vaccinations Efforts by asking about CDC studies on natural immunity.
Jordan encouraged the CDC to use some of its enormous budget, which is “58 billion dollars per year” to figure out how effective natural immunity is compared to the COVID vaccine.
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The transcript of the video reads:
The Chair now recognizes Mr. Jordan for five minutes.
Rep. Jim Jordan: Thank you Mr. Chairman. Dr. Makary, how many, well let me start with this. What’s the budget at CDC. Do you happen to know that?
Dr. Marty Makary: CDC, it’s about $9 billion, sir.
Rep. Jim Jordan: How about at the NIAID? What’s the budget there?
Dr. Marty Makary: $6 billion.
Rep. Jim Jordan: $6 billion. $9 billion CDC, $6 billion NIAID. What’s what? What about NIH? What’s the budget there?
Dr. Marty Makary: Between 42 and 43 billion.
Rep. Jim Jordan: 42 and 43? If I do the quick math, that’s like 57, 58 billion dollars. That’s annual, right?
Dr. Marty Makary: Annual.
Rep. Jim Jordan: Okay, and you know, how many people work at the CDC?
Dr. Marty Makary: CDC and NIH together about 30,000 people.
Rep. Jim Jordan: 30,000, what about if you add in NIAID, do you know how many that is. Their part of NIH as well, right? So 30, what is that number?
That’s right, 31,000 people between CDC and NIH.
Rep. Jim Jordan: 31000 people spending 58 billion dollars a year. Why hasn’t our government done a study on natural immunity?
Dr. Marty Makary: Okay, if I can be honest. if I can be honest, Representative Jordan, I don’t think they want to know the answer. It would undermine the indiscriminate vaccine vaccination policy for every single human being including extremely low risk people.
Rep. Jim Jordan: So, how many, how many Americans have, have, have got COVID since, since we’ve had this virus? Do you know?
Dr. Marty Makary: North of half of Americans, it’s based on a Columbia University study that showed 1 and 3 had COVID at the end of last year, a year ago.
Rep. Jim Jordan: So, there’s certainly a sufficient sample size to do a study and there’s a 57 to 58 billion dollars, I mean you can use some of that money to do a study. And then, of course, you know you got 30 some thousand people who could conceivably do a study on a pretty fundamental question. Now I think I saw in your opening statement that you’re actually doing a study on natural immunity. Is that right?
Dr. Marty Makary: That’s right with private funding, Johns Hopkins, my research team is doing a study.
Rep. Jim Jordan: Okay, so there’s no grant money coming from the CDC, NIH, something like that?
Dr. Marty Makary: No Sir.
Rep. Jim Jordan: And are any of these 30 some thousand employees helping you with your study.
Dr. Marty Makary: No, sir.
Rep. Jim Jordan: Now, other countries if, if I understand, I think this was in your opening statement as well, other countries have done this study, is that, is that correct?
Dr. Marty Makary: Most of our learnings come from Israel and other countries, yes, sir.
Rep. Jim Jordan: And what have they found? Let’s start with the Israel study. If you could just refresh my memory, what did Israel find.
Dr. Marty Makary: The Israel study is the largest study done worldwide, and it found that natural immunity adjusted for age and comorbidity is 27 times more effective than vaccinated immunity. And they just put out, on December 5th, another study follow, a follow-up study, again affirming similar results, the facts that the natural immunity.
Rep. Jim Jordan: But, but our, but our, the scientists in our government at CDC and NIH, they don’t account for that, they don’t talk about that. What do they say about that study.
Dr. Marty Makary: They never talk, they never talk about it unless asked. Bu,t I would say that they are doing worse than being absent on the topic. They are undermining natural immunity through two studies that the CDC did that are so flawed, that are so poorly put together. Honestly, they would not qualify for a 7th grade science fair. The results cannot be derived from the data, and it’s a disgrace that those two studies were put out because it undermines the larger body of science.
Rep. Jim Jordan: So, they won’t talk about international studies that conclude that natural immunity is 27 times better than the vaccine, but they will do some bogus, two, two, in your word some seventh grade science experiment studies using some of those 33,000 employee and using some of that 58 billion dollars of the American taxpayer money, they will do.
Dr. Marty Makary: That’s right there. That’s fair. I will say that their intention is noble, but just very paternalistic. That is, they believe in from private conversations that if they acknowledge natural immunity, some people may avoid vaccinations and think I’ll just get the infection. We don’t want people to do that, but we can be honest with the data and acreage vaccination at the same time.
Rep. Jim Jordan: I think the American people, particularly ones paying, paying this is their money. They expect honesty and transparency from our government. They don’t expect to be deceived. So I mean, this is what gets me. We can spend money. Some of that 58 billion and some of the resources at NIH and CDC can be used to fund gain-of-function research and give a grant to EcoHealth who then sends some of that money to a lab in Wuhan, China. That’s just fine, but we can’t find any resources to deal with a fundamental question about natural immunity, and so much so, that you have to go out and get private funding to do it yourself.
Dr. Marty Makary: That’ right, the NIH spent twice as much money on aging research last year, the year of COVID, more than they spent on COVID research.
Rep. Jim Jordan: This would be laughable if it wasn’t so serious, and the implications, when you think about these mandates and everything else that’s happening, what it’s doing to our economy, not to mention just being honest with the American people who, after all, it’s their money. But, but yet we have, we have the head guy, Mr. Fauci, Dr. Fauci saying I represent science, but he’s afraid to actually do the science, and do the studies that need to be done to answer this question. And we have to rely on international studies and your private study to get the truth to the American people.
Dr. Marty Makary: We subjected 72 million children too intense restrictions for 2 years, yet we don’t have the most basic research. We’ve never had an NIH funded study on masks and kids, and we’ve never had any information revealed by the CDC on whether or not any healthy child has died of COVID.
Rep. Jim Jordan: Well, Doctor, it’s either, it’s either they know the answer and don’t want the American people. They know the answer and don’t want the American people to know, or they do know the answer and are trying to hide it. I mean, it’s like, they know the answer or they’re not, they’re not sure they should say, or they know the answer and are trying to hide it from the American people. It’s one of those two!
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